Repairing Coolant Leak Under Dash Thomas HDX

We recently had a phone call to our shop from one of our sports run bus operators. He was running a 2007 Thomas HDX Pusher. The operator stated that there was coolant on the floor and the inside windows were fogging up. It should be noted that this leak is very minor and the shutoff valves at the engine valves can be closed to isolate the leak and the bus can still be operated.

Since he was 4 hours away my hands were tied and I told him to take it into the nearest Thomas dealer to let them check it out. Shortly afterwards he said the leaking stopped and he limped the bus home without any further incident. Once we got a chance to inspect under the dash the coolant leak was no where to be found. The coolant temperature control valve is electrically controlled from a dash switch.

There is coolant running through the control valve where it is throttled on and off depending on the operators requirements. We decided to pull the front inspection door down and have a look, after a close look we found a leaking control valve where and o-ring seals the piping assembly. The operator must have adjusted the heat control to a position that stopped the valve from leaking temporarily. Thomas has a new valve available and replacement will remedy the problem. It's hard to detect where the leak is coming from until you physically pull out the front heater core and check the control valve itself.

Thomas heater cores are very durable and I have never seen one leak yet. The great thing about the HDX model buses is the accessibility to the front of the cab where you can drop down the front access door panel and work on the plumbing from the outside of the bus.

How To Troubleshoot Air Brake System ABS Code .

This ABS system is by Meritor Wabco found on most highway transport vehicles. An ABS light on the dash indicates a problem that has to be repaired since an ABS fault is a fail according to Motor Vehicle Inspection criteria. The ABS system does not operate normally when there is an active code.

The code description reads "Right Front Wheel Sensor - Open"

When looking at the Right Front wheel the sensor looks like it's intact. The first thing to check is to make sure the sensor is pushed all the way into the housing. The sensor reads a tone wheel on the hub and sends a signal to the ABS Control Module.

According to the troubleshooting specs the resistance of the sensor should be between 900 and 2000 ohms. When I checked it out there was no continuity causing an obvious open circuit as indicated by the fault description. The first step is to check the wiring itself for any damage or the possibility of a faulty sensor. Most times exposed wiring to the environment is at fault when troubleshooting a circuit problem.

Further inspection shows a spot on the sensor wiring that has rubbed through on the brake pot assembly. One of 2 wires has been damaged and caused the open circuit condition. I use heat shrink butt splices since they seal very nicely from the environment.

Once the sensor was replaced I moved the bus in a forward direction & the ABS warning light went out. This was an easy fix and it was nice to stumble across the bad wire in an easy to reach location. This conventional school bus is a only a year old but you never know what can happen to wiring and components when operating on a daily basis. I hope this mechanic information has helped you out and maybe you will have it as easy as I did with repairing this failure.

Cummins Diesel Repair - ISC Model

This particular Cummins diesel repair was necessary because of an indirect code that was finally traced to the camshaft endplay. There are 2 sensors installed to the backside of the timing cover just below the top drive gear (the 2 black round shaped sensors are visible to the right of the cam shaft bearing bore). One is the camshaft position sensor the other is the engine speed sensor.

The camshaft has been removed as well as the cam gear (above). You can see the tone wheel that the sensors read and send a voltage signal to the engine ECU. When there is a problem with these readings an engine code appears and a driveability problem arises. There is a specified air gap between the cam gear and sensors, if that gap is not maintained an inaccurate signal is produced. This is typical for most electronic diesel engines and care has to be taken when handling these components.
To remove the camshaft the rocker arms and shafts must be removed first. The wooden dowels act as holding devices that jam into the solid lifters that ride on top of the cam lobes. Once the dowels are installed elastic bands are used to hold them secure while removing the camshaft. This saves a lot of time not having to pull the cylinder head.

The camshaft endplay was excessive which caused the sensor problem/codes to become a regular occurrence. The first step we took was to change the sensors, this cured the problem for several weeks but the fault always came back to haunt us. The camshaft showed signs of wear on the shoulder where the gear sits and the cam lobes as well. There is a thrust washer that goes between the gear and the engine block to help with endplay movement.

If you have to do this job in a Thomas ER Pusher Bus you will have to remove the rear engine mounts and lower the engine enough to get the rear pushrods out of the engine. The solid floorboards above are not designed to allow the pushrods enough headroom for removal.

The cam gear has to be heated to 400 degrees Fahrenheit to install back onto the camshaft. We elected to replace the gear as well as the camshaft. If you are a Diesel Mechanic this is a Cummins Engine repair you may have to go through one day. I hope this mechanic info has helped you understand the procedures involved in this operation.

Replacing Kingpins International Thomas School Bus

I recently had to replace the Kingpins and Bushings on a 2000 International Thomas School Bus. The bushings were showing movement on the Drivers side. During disassembly I had seized taper lock pins in the axle bore. These taper pins secure the kingpin itself to the axle bore.

The trick is to drill out each pin with a 3/16 drill bit [cobalt if you have one] and heat up the hole with a torch. Once the pin is good and hot [orange range] hit it with water and cool it down. This shrinks the pin and out it comes with a good rap with hammer and punch. You'll find this works 99% of the time.

The lower pin has a threaded end. This is an option since the new kingpin kit comes with extra taper pins without the threads. The pins go in the opposite direction. The upper pin seen here points towards the rear of the bus, the lower pin faces the front.






A cobalt drill bit goes through the pin material like butter. I'm not sure what kind of material the pins are made of but they're solid!







Once the cool down contraction has taken place the pins will knock out of the axle very nicely! I wouldn't recommend using this method on something like an engine block[removing a seized plug etc.], very sensitive to dry heat and there's no telling what could happen.






Removing the ABS wheel sensor is easy, The sensor slides out of the steel sleeve in the spindle. Make sure to seat it completely before reassembly[you'll get an ABS code]

This is a tidbit of Mechanic Information that I hope will help you out someday!

Thomas HDX Pusher Radiator Modification

In 2 of our new Thomas HDX Pushers we had rocks go through the radiator core. This was caused by an opening at the side facing the right rear dual wheels. Here the repair has been made by the rad repair shop using epoxy. The radiator has an aluminum core with plastic tanks.
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All that has to be done is to bend a piece of sheet metal to ninety degrees and use a 2 foot square mudflap strategically placed in front of the radiator.







Mount the sheet metal to the bus body with sheet metal screws and position the mudflap as low as possible for better protection.




















So far we've had no more incidents and hopefully this modification will fix the problem. It's a good days work to re and re the radiator so anything to improve the situation and avoid another core failure is well worth a try.

Allison Transmission Problems-Hard Shifting

Allison Transmission Problems vary and one typical complaint is hard shifting. I recently looked at a 1999 Thomas Saf-t-liner [pusher] with an Allison MD 3000 series transmission. It had a hard shift into 2nd gear and a hard downshift as well. No codes came up so it was time to check the mechanical side and do a clutch pressure test. The test has to be turned on "enable clutch test" with the "ProLink" so each shifting range can be turned on with the unit running in the shop.

The pressures are compared to main convertor pressure and sits around 270 psi on this test. The individual clutch pressures must be within 5 psi. If there is a big difference that tells us the clutch itself is worn or there is a hydraulic problem. This test revealed no problem in this area and one conclusion could be a clutch that has to be physically inspected for imperfections. There is always 2 clutches applied to get a forward gear in this case it's C1 and C4 for 2nd gear.

The next step is a big one, whether to disassemble the trans and inspect for problems or live with the hard shift. I tried to "fast adapt" the shift parameters with the "ProLink" which did not change anything. This is one of the allison transmission problems you might encounter, if we get into this project any deeper I'll keep you posted.

Thomas Buses-How To Check & Replace A Fuel Guage Sending Unit

A fuel guage sending unit is a ground circuit for the fuel guage. The position of the sender float changes the resistance to ground by way of a resistance winding that is built into the sending unit. High or low resistance determines a full or empty fuel tank. The complaint I'm dealing with is an erratic fuel guage reading, the guage needle is bouncing all over the place every time the driver turns or stops suddenly. This Mechanic information is for anyone who knows how to turn a wrench and you'll see how easy it is to check out the sending unit.
Firstly, every fuel guage sending unit is very similar on older vehicles. On newer automotive applications the sender is built into the fuel tank electric fuel pump assy. This is an integral unit and quite expensive.
I'm working on a 2000 Thomas Bus Saf-T-Liner which is running a Cummins ISC Diesel Engine. In this case the sender is seperate and very easy to test.
The sender is located 3 seats back under the floor. The floor plate has to be removed to gain access.
The sender can be tested using a jumper wire. Disconnect the wire connector at the middle terminal of the sender [this comes from the fuel guage]. Connect the jumper to the loose wire and hook it to ground.
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Turn on the ignition switch and the guage should go right over to the full mark. What this does is tell us the gauge is OK since the wire to the sender has been grounded directly without any resistance. The sender has been bypassed and now we're sure it has to be replaced.
Remove the retaining screws and ground return wire and replace the sender the same way it came out. It's that easy!
So now you understand the circuit through a fuel guage sending unit and how easy it is to diagnose and repair. I hope this mechanic information has helped you.

Thomas Buses - Air Throttle Repair

During most of the 1990's before the electronic age the engine throttle was air controlled on Thomas Bus Saf-t-liner models. The high idle was a welcome addition since it was operated with the flick of a switch on the dash.
In the photo the air line can be loosened while the engine is running where there should be no air with the high idle switch turned on. The throttle linkage is moved into high idle with spring pressure[no air]. The regular foot throttle air line is attached to the underside of the cylinder. {Click Photos To Enlarge}

The air is controlled with an electrically actuated air valve that is normally open with full air pressure and no power from the switch. The air pressure moves the internal piston to the idle position compressing the internal springs. When the high idle switch is turned on, battery power closes the switch and blocks air pressure to the air throttle allowing spring pressure to kick the throttle linkage up to high idle[around 1000 rpms].



The disassembled air throttle consists of springs pistons and seals and is easily serviced. The one thing that does fail is the 1/4 inch adjustment bolt on the end cap wearing through the washer that seats on the internal spring. Thomas buses have changed since this decade and are electronically controlled with an onboard computer but if you still own a saf-t-liner pusher these systems are reliable and easy to maintain.

Diesel Engine Oil - Switching to CJ-4 For 2007

To meet 2007 EPA standards low emission engines must use CJ-4 engine oil formulated especially for diesel engines using exhaust aftertreatment systems. New EPA standards are a 50% reduction in oxides of Nitrogen and 90% reduction in particulate matter. CJ-4 is a low ash diesel engine oil that can be used in older engines but comes at a higher price. The warranty becomes invalid if regular CL-4 oil is used in '07 diesel engines but the 10 to 30% increase in price is significant when it comes to a fleet operation.

You could stock both oils but there is a risk of operators who normally add oil to there assigned unit could inadvertently grab the wrong oil and mix the two. Mind you one litre of the wrong oil would not be detrimental to the life of the 2007 diesel engines but over time it would make a difference. The possibility of an engine oil test after a failure could happen.


Our fleet operation only stocks the CJ-4 so there is no confusion and zero risk to jeopardizing the integrity of the DPF [Diesel Particulate Filter]. The DPF has a regenerating cycle when a difference in input and output exhaust gases in the DPF [muffler] are picked up by the engine ECM [electronic control module]. The DPF literally cooks out the carbon build up and it gets kicked out the exhaust pipe which creates extremely high temperatures.


EPA standards are here to stay, with vehicle emission standards being on top of the heap when it comes to environmental concerns. Our School Bus Fleet will be receiving a Hybrid International School Bus next September. This will be an interesting technology to experience and another brand new learning curve to grasp.

Thomas Buses-HDX Rear Emergency Window Modification

Thomas Bus HDX Pushers have a rear emergency exit window that has 2 ground switches. One for the alarm, warning the driver that the window is open and the other is an interlock that does not allow the bus to start when the window is latched.

The problem we were having was water seeping through the seal causing a circuit to ground tripping the alarm even when the window was fully closed. The quick fix was to grab an air line and dry off around the switch and grounds. Pictured here is the alarm ground switch[click on pic to enlarge]

This is the window locking latch that must be unlatched for the bus to start. The rivet on the outside is going to ground while the handle contacts a strip riveted on the inside of the frame.






We installed 2 intermittent switches in a currently available Thomas Part that encases the 2 switches and does the same job as the factory install.






The window must be removed to rewire the new installation. The 2 original ground switch wires are attached to the new switches in the casing and grounded at the case.






Once installed the [starting interlock] bolt style latch locks the window and the other switch is depressed [just above] to shut off the window alarm.
The latch catches on a "C" shaped flat bar that was fabricated to lock the window.




The latch bolt is in the open [run] position and the bus will start, this is a safety factor that newer Thomas Buses come with from the factory.

I will be updating this post soon with part numbers.

Diesel Engine VS Gas Engine

Diesel Engine VS Gas Engine: Diesel engine principles are pretty straight forward for the experienced mechanic but what about regular everyday people who have never taken the time to find out more about a diesel engine vs gas engine and how they both work? I am going to explain in layman's terms the basic principles of a diesel engine and the differences vs gasoline engines.




WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DIESEL ENGINE AND A GAS ENGINE?...a quick overview.





The first thing you should know is a gasoline engine and a diesel engine are totally different. A gasoline engine is constructed much lighter than the heavier built diesel engine and runs on an air/fuel mixture combined with a high energy spark that is timed to ignite the air/fuel mixture inside each engine cylinder at the precise time creating power and torque [turning force] which drives your vehicle.

A diesel engine uses high compression [intake air that is compressed] into a very small space inside each cylinder causing extreme heat! This is called 'Heat Of Compression' which ignites a very fine high pressure mist of diesel fuel that is injected into the cylinder at the exact time.

Gasoline engine needs a high energy spark to run while a diesel uses:
'Heat Of Compression'

THE FOUR STROKE PRINCIPLE

Every engine today runs on FOUR STROKES or FOUR CYCLES- both these terms mean the same. Here is how the four stroke diesel engine operates. The four strokes are: INTAKE-COMPRESSION-POWER-EXHAUST. The pistons, valves and injectors work together in each cylinder in a set sequence over and over.


INTAKE STROKE:
Intake valves in the cylinder head open allowing pressurized air to enter each cylinder while the piston is travelling downward.{the pressurized air supply is made possible by the TURBOCHARGER which pushes air into the intake system giving the diesel engine a boost of air to keep up with instantaneous injection of fuel

COMPRESSION STROKE:
When the piston starts to make it's way back upward the valves close which traps the intake air in the cylinder which allows compression to take place, the HEAT OF COMPRESSION is reached when the piston reaches the top of the cylinder, the diesel fuel is then injected into the cylinder at the precise time.

POWER STROKE:
After injection takes place an explosion occurs in the cylinder because of the combination of heat and atomized diesel fuel. This causes the piston to be forced downward which produces torque and the horsepower required from a typical diesel engine.

EXHAUST STROKE:
After the power stroke the piston moves upward once again while the exhaust valves open allowing the previously ignited gases to escape to the atmosphere out the exhaust system.
As mentioned before each cylinder goes through this exact sequence over and over in a set firing order.

For instance, a 6 cylinder diesel engine has a firing order 1- 5- 3- 6- 2- 4 This is the order that each cylinder goes by, following the 4 strokes mentioned above. This sequence has been engineered to allow the diesel engine to run smoothly with no imbalance.

In my opinion there is no comparison: The diesel engine VS gas engine debate could go on forever but I'm sold on diesel engines for there strength and reliability.

Thomas Buses - Allison Transmission Wiring Modification

Thomas Buses are driven by an Allison MD 3000 Series Automatic transmission. This 1995 Saf-t-liner model had no power to the operators trans shift pad. The shift pad is also the Trans ECU [electronic control unit] so as I have said before always check the source , in this case the batteries.

There was a power feed open between the batteries and the rear control box at the engine compartment. I was able to limp the bus home by jumping battery power to the terminal board inside the control box which goes to directly to the operators cab supplying battery power to the shift pad/ECU.

This is obviously how I determined the open from the battery to the control box/terminal board [standard wiring on all Saf-t-liners]. The code for this fault is 35-00 [push both arrows on the shift pad at the same time with key on to retrieve code {under normal circumstances}

The control box at the engine compartment houses the engine intake heater components, lights etc. as well as the main battery power to the front electrical control box below the driver's side window.





My plan is to totally bypass the trans battery supply circuit from the battery to the ECU. Here you can see I've already cut the wires [larger #8 guage pos. and neg. wiring come from the battery while the smaller #10 guage pos. and neg. wires are running up front to the ECU]




This is the terminal board I mentioned earlier, factory wiring with spade connectors that connect the battery feed wiring to the trans. ECU wiring.

The first picture [top] shows the #8 pos. and neg. wires hooked up and running directly to the trans ECU. This will eliminate the extra #10 wires shown in the rear control box.


In the drivers cab the rear cover has been removed for easy access to the back of the trans. ECU. The upper plug can be removed and inspected for battery power. Both pos. and neg. #18 wires [2 each] run into this plug directly from the battery. The #8 wire is downsized under the dash to accommodate the smaller wiring into the ECU plug-in.



The 12V source from the battery is shown here with no connections in between. With a Digital Multimeter you can check for a battery voltage and a good ground.






So now you know when you have a shift pad with no reading [key on] the first thing to check is the battery voltage.

I hope this has helped you become more familiar with Thomas Buses equipped with Allison MD 3000 Series Automatic Transmissions.