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Thursday, May 21, 2009

School Bus Power Steering Pump Front Seal

This is a Haldex 2 stage Power Steering Pump removed from one of our 1998 Pusher School Buses. The problem found was the power steering level was rising on it's own. No, it's not magic but a front seal allowing engine oil to enter the pump suction side.

The power steering pump is bolted in tandem to the rear of the air compressor which has an open crankcase with lots of engine oil being splashed about. Since the suction side of the pump is facing in this direction, if the seal is faulty engine oil will enter the pump and end up in the power steering reservoir.

One quick check to confirm this is the engine oil is black as usual from hydrocarbons while P.S. oil is standard 10w30 engine oil so there is a noticeable difference from the normal appearance.
To change the seal the pump must be removed and the front housing taken off. Always mark the pump stages before dis-assembly for easy reassembly.

With the end housing taken off the seal snap ring can be removed then the front seal can be easily replaced. This pump operates not only the power steering but the hydraulic fan motor as well. There are 2 output ports on the pump which supply pressure oil to run the 2 systems. This pump is mainly found on the 3116 cat Engines in our fleet & work very well in normal day to day operations.

Thursday, April 30, 2009

Diesel Engine Cranks Does Not Start

If a diesel engine cranks but does not start the first thing you want to look at is the power feed to the engine controls. In this case it's a Mercedes mbe 900 diesel engine in a 2007 conventional school bus. The first check is the fuse block since this powers up the ignition relays that operate the engine control modules.

Here is the Engine Power Distribution Module (photo below) with the relay that sends a signal to the engine control module.
The wavy line on circuit here has a ground to one side. With no ground the coil does not energize which will not allow the circuit to close.



Mercedes diesel engines have 2 modules, one on the engine and the other inside the cab. The ignition switch activates the relays that gives us the start operation. We found voltage to the cab module but when the engine was cranked over there was a voltage drop down to '0' Volts.

Tracing the wires and checking for continuity was the first step since a voltage drop means a resistance problem in one of the circuits. With the help of the Thomas Bus Tech Line we found the circuits to both relays then found the ground to be non-existent for both ignition relays.
These 2 ground wires (photo below) energize the coils within the relays. No grounds of course caused these relays to be become inactive.
After running a temporary ground the engine started. So obviously we had to check the ground connections on the firewall and the frame. After some digging there was a broken connector to a frame ground below the cab. Once repaired, the engine was back to normal once again.
The photo below shows the broken ground cable found just below the cab firewall on the outside of the frame rail.


This is Mechanical information that points out that a bad ground can cause a lot of electrical problems and should always be checked first starting at the batteries. A digital volt meter will tell you a lot with voltage and resistance readings. The higher the resistance the lower the amperage.

Friday, April 11, 2008

Thomas Buses-How To Check & Replace A Fuel Guage Sending Unit

A fuel guage sending unit is a ground circuit for the fuel guage. The position of the sender float changes the resistance to ground by way of a resistance winding that is built into the sending unit. High or low resistance determines a full or empty fuel tank. The complaint I'm dealing with is an erratic fuel guage reading, the guage needle is bouncing all over the place every time the driver turns or stops suddenly. This Mechanic information is for anyone who knows how to turn a wrench and you'll see how easy it is to check out the sending unit.
Firstly, every fuel guage sending unit is very similar on older vehicles. On newer automotive applications the sender is built into the fuel tank electric fuel pump assy. This is an integral unit and quite expensive.
I'm working on a 2000 Thomas Bus Saf-T-Liner which is running a Cummins ISC Diesel Engine. In this case the sender is seperate and very easy to test.
The sender is located 3 seats back under the floor. The floor plate has to be removed to gain access.
The sender can be tested using a jumper wire. Disconnect the wire connector at the middle terminal of the sender [this comes from the fuel guage]. Connect the jumper to the loose wire and hook it to ground.
[click on each picture to enlarge]
Turn on the ignition switch and the guage should go right over to the full mark. What this does is tell us the gauge is OK since the wire to the sender has been grounded directly without any resistance. The sender has been bypassed and now we're sure it has to be replaced.
Remove the retaining screws and ground return wire and replace the sender the same way it came out. It's that easy!
So now you understand the circuit through a fuel guage sending unit and how easy it is to diagnose and repair. I hope this mechanic information has helped you.




Sunday, April 06, 2008

Thomas Buses - Air Throttle Repair

During most of the 1990's before the electronic age the engine throttle was air controlled on Thomas Bus Saf-t-liner models. The high idle was a welcome addition since it was operated with the flick of a switch on the dash.
In the photo the air line can be loosened while the engine is running where there should be no air with the high idle switch turned on. The throttle linkage is moved into high idle with spring pressure[no air]. The regular foot throttle air line is attached to the underside of the cylinder. {Click Photos To Enlarge}

The air is controlled with an electrically actuated air valve that is normally open with full air pressure and no power from the switch. The air pressure moves the internal piston to the idle position compressing the internal springs. When the high idle switch is turned on, battery power closes the switch and blocks air pressure to the air throttle allowing spring pressure to kick the throttle linkage up to high idle[around 1000 rpms].



The disassembled air throttle consists of springs pistons and seals and is easily serviced. The one thing that does fail is the 1/4 inch adjustment bolt on the end cap wearing through the washer that seats on the internal spring. Thomas buses have changed since this decade and are electronically controlled with an onboard computer but if you still own a saf-t-liner pusher these systems are reliable and easy to maintain.

Saturday, March 01, 2008

Thomas Buses-HDX Rear Emergency Window Modification

Thomas Bus HDX Pushers have a rear emergency exit window that has 2 ground switches. One for the alarm, warning the driver that the window is open and the other is an interlock that does not allow the bus to start when the window is latched.

The problem we were having was water seeping through the seal causing a circuit to ground tripping the alarm even when the window was fully closed. The quick fix was to grab an air line and dry off around the switch and grounds. Pictured here is the alarm ground switch[click on pic to enlarge]

This is the window locking latch that must be unlatched for the bus to start. The rivet on the outside is going to ground while the handle contacts a strip riveted on the inside of the frame.






We installed 2 intermittent switches in a currently available Thomas Part that encases the 2 switches and does the same job as the factory install.






The window must be removed to rewire the new installation. The 2 original ground switch wires are attached to the new switches in the casing and grounded at the case.






Once installed the [starting interlock] bolt style latch locks the window and the other switch is depressed [just above] to shut off the window alarm.
The latch catches on a "C" shaped flat bar that was fabricated to lock the window.




The latch bolt is in the open [run] position and the bus will start, this is a safety factor that newer Thomas Buses come with from the factory.

I will be updating this post soon with part numbers.

Saturday, February 09, 2008

Cummins Engine Repair- ISC Engine Code 434

Cummins Engine Repair not only involves mechanical but electronic repairs as well. The ISC model has an ECM that sends and receives messages that controls every performance aspect of this engine. The main source of power is the battery that depends on wiring that feeds the Cummins ECM sufficient voltage to run the engine systems.
Pictured is the laptop shot of an active code #434 a power interruption that derated the engine to a crawl. Derating protects the engine from sustaining high speeds and rpms which would cause more severe damage. This ISC Cummins Engine is in a 1999 Thomas School Bus Saf-T-Liner. With an active code you can retrieve it with the diagnostics switch [on the dash] & ignition switch turned on. The code will beep each number with a pause, in this case 4 beeps 3 beeps 4 beeps with a pause in between each #.

A closer look [click on photo to enlarge] shows numerous fuses on the positive feed wire to the Engine ECM [electronic control module]. Our code information is telling me there is a power problem so "the first thing to check is the Source."



Using a digital ohmmeter check the fuses for continuity and clean all the connections.

Note: Before this maintenance step I could not get a reading on my laptop, there was a communication error between the engine and the "Cummins Insite" software.
After cleaning all the connections and testing the batteries the communication problem was erased and the code disappeared.

There is a variety of 7.5 and 10 amp fuses inline with battery to ECU supply power. I traced the wiring back along the frame as well to check out any other possible problems. The rule of thumb in this situation is to check connections and wiring closest to the environment and work your way up the line.





Using a Snap-On Micro Vat Battery Tester I concluded that all the batteries were in good condition. This tester does a very quick assessment of battery condition and also tests starting and charging systems quickly.




The Conclusion to this problem was simple, servicing the battery connections which had enough resistance to cause the #434 code to occur. It makes sense since the ECM reads Voltage at a very sensitive level.

After an extensive road test the code did not come back and this experience was a good one telling me [and you the reader] to always check the simple things first!

Now we're ready for the next challenge with Cummins Engine Repair.


Recommended: Diesel Engine Repair Manuals

Friday, February 01, 2008

Cat 3116 Engine-Repairing Common Engine Oil Leak

The Cat 3116 Engine has a common oil leak that is very easy to fix. The first step is to remove the steering pump which is driven off the air compressor. The next step is to remove the rear housing from the air compressor, it's held on with 4 nuts on studs, there is a square o-ring that seals the rear housing to the main compressor body. The Compressor is a "Bendix 850 Model" which is a 2 stage [2 cylinder] unit.



The Cat 3116 Engine oil pressure guage and air compressor oil feed lines run off the housing pictured here bolted to the engine block which is connected to the main oil pressure gallery. There is an o-ring seal between this housing and the engine block.





This 2nd block is the air compressor rear support block that has an o-ring seal as well. This block also serves as an oil drain for the 3126 model which has a oil pump above that supplies high pressure oil to the HEUI system [Hydraulic Electronic Unit Injectors].




Pictured here is the oil pressure manifold housing removed. The heat is absorbed by these 2 o-rings and they become very brittle causing an oil leak. Diesel Engines run from the "heat of Compression" so you can bet the engine block is smokin' hot! when operating temperatures are met.





The manifold housing o-ring has been replaced and is secured with 2 M8 Metric bolts. These 2 areas are a common oil leak in both the Cat 3116 Engine & 3126 Diesel Engine .






Recommended: Diesel Engine Repair Manuals

Saturday, January 26, 2008

Cummins Engine Repair-Adjusting Valves ISB

  1. Valve adjustment on a Cummins Engine Repair is the final step. Engine position is very important because the intake and exhaust valves must be in the closed position.
Rotate the engine clockwise [looking from the front] until #6 cylinder rocker arms are both rocking. When you're on the correct stroke the exhaust valve will be moving into the closed position, then once it closes keep rotating the engine until the intake valve JUST starts to open. You are now on #1 Compression Stroke & ready to adjust 1/2 of the engine valves.

Note: The crossheads pictured here on top of the valve stems [#5 & #6 Cyl] are located with the elongated contact surface towards the exhaust manifold. The Rocker arms are held down on aluminum cradles with one retaining bolt and torqued to 27 ft. lbs.

Cummins 24 Valve Turbo Diesel Valve Adjustment Specs.

With the Engine on #1 Compression Stroke.

*Adjust #1 #2 #4 Intake Valves to .010 inch.

*Adjust #1 #3 #5 Exhaust Valves to .020 inch.

*Rotate Engine One Full Turn. #1 Cylinder Valves will rock like #6 did previously positioning the engine on #6 Compression Stroke.

*Adjust #3 #5 #6 Intake Valves.

*Adjust #2 #4 #6 Exhaust Valves.

It's not hard to adjust valves on a Cummins 24 Valve Turbo Diesel once you get the hang of it. All you have to know is how to position the engine correctly, the valve settings and some basic tools. That's it for now on Cummins Engine Repair.




Recommended: Diesel Engine Repair Manuals

Wednesday, December 19, 2007

Charging System Test - Heavy Duty 12 Volt System

A charging system test is a very basic operation with the right tools. Pictured is a Leece Neville 160 Amp Alternator which works very hard to keep the three 900 CCA [Cold Cranking Amps] bus batteries charged. Thomas School buses have a large demand with extra lights, electric motors and the engine air intake heater. The diesel engine in this case is a Cummins ISC Electronically controlled unit.



You're probably wondering what the heck is that device hooked up to the batteries? That's my tool of choice, a 'SUN' VAT 33 [Volt Amp Tester]. This model has been around for decades and still very reliable, our shop does have a digital tester but I like this one for doing a quick check on the charging system. The reason I'm testing the charging system is because of an unusually low voltmeter & ammeter reading.




The main leads are hooked up to the positive and negative battery terminals while the amps pickup is clamped around the positive cable to read alternator ouput back into the batteries. The engine must be running at high idle [approx. 1200 rpm]

The black control knob I'm turning puts a load on the batteries which should kick in the alternator to charge very close to maximum. Once I bring down the system voltage to 12V the alternator should normally put out a full charge of approx. 160 amps.

The test revealed the alternator is only putting out 80 amps maximum which will not keep up to the demands of a fully operational school bus & must be repaired or replaced.

This is a fast and easy way to do a charging system test on a 12 Volt Heavy Duty charging system.

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Cat 3116 Engine Installation-Thomas Buses

















This is a Cat 3116 Engine installation into a Thomas Pusher. This process is much easier with the transmission installed [MD 3000 series]
The transmission jack supports the trans. and the hydraulic crane hooks on nicely to the front engine lifting eye. With some assistance we rolled the whole assembly into the backend with ease. You'll notice the rear subframe and bumper have been removed. This is one great advantage of owning a Thomas pusher although we don't want to be doing this particular operation too often...

Saturday, December 15, 2007

Thomas Buses-HDX Electrical System Repair

The electrical system on Thomas Buses vary depending on the model, pictured is an HDX model built in 2004. We are going to change a module that controls the main power to the body and chassis electrical systems. A hoist is handy but not totally required, I had to enlist a grinder with a cut-off wheel to remove the existing bolts.





This unit is called a dual power switch that is mounted on the frame on the passenger side across from the transmission. Since it is exposed to the elements the terminals are exposed so corrosion can develop. Consequently their is a possibility of an intermittent power problem to the lights or engine/trans controls when turning on the ignition.





As you can see the middle terminal is connected directly to the main batteries. The chassis and body battery supply terminals are located on each side while the ignition feed connector is plugged in on the top left corner.
When the ignition is energized a signal is sent to this module and power is directed to both systems. The chassis is the engine, trans. and running electrical while the body electrical is the lighting system.


Here is the module installed on the frame with four fasteners and an insulator between the module and the frame surface. It depends totally on what kind of environment you drive in for a problem to occur with this component. It is very well sealed internally with a hard epoxy type substance.
I hope this article has enlightened you with what to look for when experiencing electrical problems with Thomas Buses.

Saturday, October 27, 2007

Thomas Bus Heater Blower Motor Replacement


There are 4 Front heater blower motors on the Thomas School Bus Saf-T-Liner Model. With Winter on it's way this is an important maintenance area, defrosting of the windshield has to be accomplished quickly.
The heater blower motors also serve as defrost motors with a quick change up on the controls. Each motor has 4 wires for high/low speed and 2 grounds.
The direction can be reversed using the ground wires. One is grounded directly while the other is connected internally back to the motor, reversing these 2 will change direction.

This Thomas Pusher Bus is a 1992 model, removing the middle and left side panels will allow access to all 4 heater blower motors.
The tandem motor in the middle looks after main defrost and heat while each motor on the ends provide floor heat to the driver and defrost/heat to both ends of the cab.
The main failures on these motors are dry bushings causing noise and seizure and blower cage noise.

Saturday, March 17, 2007

Thomas Pusher School Bus - Removing Radiator


This Thomas School Bus had a leaking radiator that required removal and repair. All the body panels must be removed to gain access to the radiator. The air charge cooler must be removed as well, it cools the turbocharged intake air to create more density/volume.




Fortunately this radiator core was repairable being a 1999 model, This is the best way when running a fleet of 70 School buses. The Thomas Pushers have transversely mounted radiators since they have rear drive engines and transmissions.